The Absurdity of the Lunatic Fringe: Q and his Followers

There are people out there who call themselves Americans who are followers of Q who are a couple of guys named Ron Watkins and his father Jim Watkins who lived in the Philippines and now perhaps in Japan. Jim recently was found by the Philippine government to be someone they did not want living there so he sold his pig farm and headed elsewhere. Son Ron allegedly lives in Japan at the present time. Jim is an Army veteran who enlisted when he was 18 years old and after a few years established a site that involved itself with Japanese pornography and some suggest child pornography.

The Watkins run 8chan which is the vehicle through which Q communicates. Watkins formed a super PAC called “Disarm the Deep State“, which backs political candidates who support the QAnon conspiracy theory. One of the theories propounded by Q is there are “Satan-worshiping pedophiles running a global child sex-trafficking ring . . . plotting against former President Donald Trump who is battling them.”

Sadly one of their followers got caught up in the moment. He traveled from North Carolina up to Washington, D.C. believing that Hillary Clinton had some of the children who were being molested in the downstairs of a pizza shop in that city. He arrived with a gun attempting to free them only to be frustrated when he learned there was no downstairs.

But there are many other followers out there – echoes of them are in comments posted on this blog  – who also believe that Trump is battling the evil forces in the world like Hillary Clinton – which some Q folk call “Hillary, the arch villainess,”  They point out Hillary complained the election was stolen from her by the Russians without noting that she is probably right because there is no doubt the Russians interfered with the 2016 election – as found by the Mueller report and the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Q folk justify the attack on our Capitol by pointing to the so-called summer riots of 2020 unable to distinguish between an attempt to overthrow our government and people protesting the killing of an unarmed Black man. Conveniently they tell us most of the people at the Capitol riot were peaceful while not noting the same thing about those who participated in the summer riots.

Then as Q has directed – they tell us the attack on the Capitol was not an attempt to overthrow the government even though some were yelling to hang the vice-president – and others beat and injured over 100 police officers, broke through windows and doors, carried off booty they were able to gather, violated the Capitol with the Confederate flag, and were hell bent on capturing members of Congress.

No we are supposed to forget that was Trump’s last hope to stay in power – after please do not remind us that Trump asked these folk to come to DC on the day when the vote  wasa being certified so that they could have “a wild time.”

They say It was merely an attempt to delay the certification of the vote count with which they disagreed until? A delay? Fourteen days before the inauguration! How long was the delay to be? Was it to be until they were satisfied the vote count was correct which to this date they are still not satisfied?

It is shocking that so many folk parrot a guy who made his money doing porn and repeat his allegations based on no substance at all. It does though tell you a lot about Trump followers.

 

2 Comments

  1. As long as people on either side are governed by the most extreme stances of their opposites, no middle ground is possible. Nor does it seem to be desired. Constant battle reigns supreme…nobody wins.

  2. william m. connolly

    “If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too:
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
    Or being hated don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise.”

    Lunatics exist on all sides, left and right. How many liberals have expressed violence/hatred against Trump? See, 15 Stars Who Imagined Violence Against Donald Trump, From Kathy Griffin to Pearl Jam (Photos) (thewrap.com)
    Leftist Riots: (May 2020 to today April 2021) What have the leftist rioters done? Molotov cocktails thrown at police, lasers aimed to blind police, hundreds of police injured, police vehicles in flames, hundreds of buildings burned down, hundreds of statues tore down, hundreds of art-works defaced, sections of cities “occupied” (still are); massive looting occurred. A score or more were killed.

    Anger, rage at George Floyd’s death is understandable. Riots/violence/destruction/looting are deplorable.
    I understand Americans’ anger, rage, on all sides.

    Of course, yesterday, I wrote deploring violence at the Capitol, noting most protesters were peaceful. I added; “So, too, the 250 Summer riots/violence were deplorable. Most protesters were peaceful.”

    No need to twist words or defame by innuendos and insinuations.

    Were Q worse than ISIS? ISIS killed 8,800 in Iraq. Q members have killed zero, to my knowledge. Al Qaeda killed about 3,000 on 9-11. Seems a lot of anti-American hatred exists world-wide and domestically.

    I described Hillary as an “arch-villainess.” I do think she haughtily and heinously described “half” of Trump supporters as “deplorables.” Is it worse to call Trump “Hitler” or Biden “Stalin” or her highness Hillary a Heinous Hillarian? I am against all smears, character assassinations. I wrote two little books titled: “Character Assassins” and “Character Assassins II.” I admit I sometimes resort to it, sometimes sarcastically, sometimes simply in counter point.

    Logical fallacies: (1) Citing a lunatic’s words or actions and ascribing them to many or all associates. (2) Arguing that because Q’s founder was “allegedly” perverted, therefore all Q supporters are depraved. (3) Arguing that Hillary correctly claimed her election was “stolen”, because some Russians “attempted” to interfere in the 2016 election, omitting the fact that no evidence proves one vote was changed. (4) Claiming a few violent expressions (hang Pelosi, hang Pence) reflect the thinking of many or all Trump supporters. You do remember those shouting “no violence” and Trump’s words, “peacefully protest” and his tweets at 2:38 p.m. “no violence” and his four years supporting “law and order.” (5) Similarly, we don’t claim all Liberals (some Trump haters) wanted to decapitate Trump because liberals like Kathy Griffin pictured herself holding Trump’s decapitated bloody head. Hateful expression? Yes. Figuratively endorsing violence? Yes. Remember that Texas A&M professor fired for saying he would “hang Trump” and “play soccer with Jeff Sessions head.”

    As said, there are lunatics on all sides. However, many far righters describe themselves as Patriotic, pro-America, pro-Constitutional, pro-self-defense. On Jan 6, hundreds carried American flags. I saw two Confederate flags.