The Last Debate on the Road to the White House: Envelope please. And the Winner is?

() HareThe New York Times which has been solidly in Hillary’s pocket during this election year (which announced on its front page the other day that after extensive research its publisher Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr. has decided on his successor, Arthur Gregg Sulzberger, his son) has put Donald Trumps chance of winning the presidency at 8%. I was surprised that it was so high. I give him zero chance.

How could you possibly even consider voting for the guy. Tradition demands that both the Republican and Democratic nominees for president receive the same briefing as the president on the state of the world. Having been briefed he was told that seventeen intelligence agencies, both governmental and private, have concluded that the matters being printed by Wikileaks about the Clinton campaign have come from Russia with the approval of the highest officials. He says he does not believe it saying they could have come from anywhere including China.

How is he to conduct the actions of our country when he refuses to believe what our intelligence sources are telling him? Do you really want a person like that making decisions? I suppose if he had some other information to justify his disbelief it would be one thing but he doesn’t. He just chooses not to believe it.

More and more after hearing him tell us of his disbelief it seems he is in the clutches of Putin’s Russia. They have to have something on him that makes him extol them while condemning what his own country has done. Hardly can one expect to be president by knocking what the Americans are doing and praising the Russians. There is something wrong when a candidate takes a position that is detrimental to his chances of success.

So why is he doing it? I suppose some of the answer lies in his hiring of Paul Manafort who worked hard to keep the pro-Russian Ukrainian president Victor Yanukovych from being overthrown as he attempted to force Ukraine back under Russia’s thumb. Manafort was connected to Russian oligarchs.

Natural questions arise as to whether Trump made a devil’s deal with Russia to help him in the campaign. Part of the deal was stealing Podesta’s and other Clinton supporters emails and pushing them out through another source as we see being done. No one was better placed than Manafort to bring that deal about.

Trump’s defense is he never met Putin. He need not have if someone else on his behalf did. To me it is clear something is rotten in Trump’s relationship with Russia. Was he set to become the new Victor Yanukovich?

As for the debate as a whole the only way Trump could have obtained any success was if Hillary collapsed on the stage or if Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein were seen sitting next to each other with their fourteen-year-old girlfriends necking. Other than that there is no exit for him from his free fall into the mouth of a stunning defeat.

We will be stuck for four years with Hillary Clinton as president. Trump calls her “lyin Hillary.” We can only hope he is right and that she has been lying to the progressives in her base to maintain their radical support and that she will govern from the center. There is a chance that when she becomes president she will be more concerned with how history will view her than ramming far left programs down our throats. I know the chances of this happening are remote but since she is going to win handily one can only hope.

The bottom line is whether the Clintons are in it for themselves or the country. Both of them are up there in age and the clock is ticking; do they want to be billionaires or are they happy with their millions? Time will tell.

Ralph Benko writing in Forbes  stated,  “Protestant America has managed to nominate two Protestant candidates for president.” He wrote about Hillary’s “confession of Faith” where she said: I am a Methodist. … My study of the Bible, my many conversations with people of faith, has led me to believe the most important commandment is to love the Lord with all your might and to love your neighbor as yourself, and that is what I think we are commanded by Christ to do, and there is so much more in the Bible about taking care of the poor, visiting the prisoners, taking in the stranger, creating opportunities for others to be lifted up, to find faith themselves that I think there are many different ways of exercising your faith.”

We can only hope she is not lying about that.

30 thoughts on “The Last Debate on the Road to the White House: Envelope please. And the Winner is?

  1. “Bring to Heel” – A command to a trained dog that orders the animal to immediately lie on the ground behind it’s masters feet.


  2. At the Al Smith dinner, Clinton and Trump were so lame, it hurt to watch. Why are these two execrable people the only choices? The system is a fraud. It’s obvious to everyone. People will stop believing the television, just they did in hallowed sixty-eight. Anarchy is on the way. The sooner, the better.

    Clinton will have big problems with the Dem left, if she doesn’t deliver on her campaign promises, which, she won’t. She’ll be no more a leftist, than her husband was. Don’t fret. Bourgeois interests will pull her strings, just as they would have pulled Trump’s had he won. The present system is a disease, an all consuming cancer. Glorious Leader and Clinton are only symptoms of this dreadful malady.

    All power to the Dialectic!

  3. Matt: not so fast for Hillary;
    Today’s polls:
    General Election: IBD/TIPP Tracking Clinton 40, Trump 41, Johnson 8, Stein 4 Trump +1
    General Election: Rasmussen Reports Clinton 41, Trump 43, Johnson 5, Stein 3 Trump +2
    General Election: LA Times/USC Tracking Clinton 44, Trump 45 Trump +1

  4. Matt: I read today, someone calculated 72 million votes for Trump: A Shoe-In. (I can’t relocate the site.)
    Remember how Bill Clinton debased the White House! If the voters concentrate on putting Bill back in D.C. (as Hillary said, “In charge of the economy.”), the outcome will change in Trump’s favor.
    Remember Bill Clinton:
    He and Andrew Johnson are the only 2 Presidents to be impeached by the House. Both were later acquitted by the Senate. Bill was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.
    Bill also lost his law license in Arkansas (facing additional charges of perjury, he cut a deal.)
    Bill also admitted under oath committing adultery with Jennifer Flowers “one time”, which he had publicly denied.
    He repeatedly bold-faced lied to the American Public “I never had sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky.” Monica said otherwise as did Bill’s DNA on her dress.
    A President who had sex with a 21 year old Intern while in the White House, while doing government business, and repeatedly lied about it, does not belong back in the White House.
    Let’s not go into all the other scandals of Bill and Hill’s time in office.
    Bill and Hill have already desecrated the White House, and some say looted it after leaving office. In fact, the record shows when caught and accused of ripping off about $150,000 in goods, they reimbursed the White House with a check for about $60,000, if my memory is correct.
    Yes, Trump has been accused of groping multiple women, too (all within the last two weeks) but he denies it. Bill and Hillary don’t deny Monica nor Jennifer nor settling with Paula, nor Impeachment nor losing a law license nor bold-faced lies to the American people.
    I think it went something like this before the Grand Jury: “Is there a relationship with that woman?” Bill responded, “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is!”
    Were you ever alone with that woman? “It depends on what the meaning of the word alone is.”
    Apparently Bill thought since he wasn’t alone in Washington D.C. with Monica (there were hundreds of thousands people there), he could quibble. He was alone in a room with her, but there were other occupied rooms in the White House, so he could quibble. “Were you ever alone in a room with Monica, excluding any animals, mice, insects, that might be there?” Alone, just you and Monica? Bill had to think about it!
    Why tell the truth, when you can be evasive?
    And Hillary is worse than Bill. “I did not say the TPP was the gold standard; I said it was my hope it would become the gold standard.” Even the Washington Post gave her 4 Pinocchios on that whopper.

    1. Bill:

      All which you write is well known. The NY Times now has Trump down to 7%. He is behind by double figures in states he has to win to get the electoral votes he needs. I agree with all you say and have written against both Bill and Hillary. But they are going to win because Trump is so far out of line having alienated the blacks and Latinos.. How did he think he would ever win. Of course, the tape and the last minute parade of women victims are set ups — remember Gary Hart — when they saw his girl sitting on his lap and him wearing his monkey business T shirt they came right out with that — have you ever wondered why NBC did not come out with the Trump tape earlier – imagine if they held the Hart pictures and he was nominated and they showed them three weeks before the election. It was all a big set up by the nasty Clintons and there was only one person in the world who Hillary could beat and the Republicans put him up against her. Rue the day.

  5. There will be 40,000,000 people who voted for President Trump wake up on 9 November and say to friends how weird it is because neither they nor anyone in their families voted for Trump.

    Nobody admitted to voting for Nixon in 1972. Although that was true in Massachusetts.

    1. Henry:

      The word is Trump might be calling for a boycott of the election by his 40 million voters. Imagine waking up on November 9 and seeing that no one actually did vote for Trump.

  6. I’ll vote for Hillz, but only if it comes with a shot of penicillin.

    In 1972 I voted for the first time. Shirley Chisholm got my vote. That was the only time I voted for POTUS and did not waste my vote.

  7. You mean President Clinton who was elected twice to our nations highest office. This website has come a long way from Jimmy Bulger. It was a lot better when it stuck to the nitty gritty of what the man who writes it knows best.

    1. Norwood:

      Whitey, or as you call him Jimmy, has sent me no news lately so it is hard to write about him.

      1. He was Jimmy at the court house and Jimmy when I first met him (80s). Maybe ‘Whitey’ was a ‘nom de guerre?’

        The latest news (17 October):

        Convicted gangster James “Whitey” Bulger is no rat — even if it means saving an innocent man’s life.

        The Boston Globe reports that Bulger declined to detail what he knows about a murder in 1980 in a letter sent last month to Boston native Deborah McCauley Chin, who wrote Bulger on behalf of her friend, Frederick Weichel. Chin wanted Bulger’s account of Robert LaMonica’s murder in an affidavit, saying the 64-year-old Weichel spent more than half his life behind bars for a crime he didn’t commit.

        “I have never testified against any man, have never caused any man to be put in prison,” Bulger wrote in the letter, which was recently provided to the newspaper.

  8. Matt, I think the comments above, providing several powerful reasons to vote for Trump, capture it perfectly. Including Tadzio’s note on Her Thighness’ security breach.

    I’d like to add – S. Ct.

    Killery is a lost person. She lies, then she lies about lying.

    It is ironic that she, who is so much “for the children” – the magic phrase that apparently she thinks gives her a free pass to commit any crime she wants – accused Trump of making partial birth abortion “emotional.”

    It is an absolutely horrid, horrible, gruesome procedure.

    Billary is sooooo for “protecting toddlers” from grabbing guns and shooting themselves – according to her, like sniper fire, it happens all the time, and justifies all sorts of gun control.

    But she is just fine with killing babies in a horrific way.

    She is a lost soul.

    1. Elmer:

      I look for a silver lining. I’m not voting for her and I am not voting for Trump who has no chance in Massachusetts even if Hillary was caught murdering little babies. I agree with what you say about her but she is going to be elected so I’m hoping she is lying about some of her extreme positions and is more moderate than she sound.


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    1. Bill:

      The ship has left the dock – yes, Hillary is Horrid with her advocacy of killing children but she is going to be the next president. Trump is as horrible as she is in many ways.

  9. Trump made a fool of himself by launching a harsh partisan attack on Clinton at the Al Smith dinner in New York last night. Trump was booed and you could see the dismay on Cardinal Dolan’s face.

  10. Matt: I agree with GOK: Who could vote for Hillary? A perpetually lying two-faced glib lib feminazi?
    When Hillary says, “I will INVEST in such and such . . .” she means more SPENDING. More Investing/Spending means more taxes: Bigger Government. Socialism.
    How about her “free college” program she’ll foist on the taxpayer?
    Feminazi? Yes, consider her votes in favor of partial-birth abortion and repealing the Hyde Amendment. Her zeal to kill the unborn is boundless, unfettered.
    With Hillary, you get not “equal protection”, but identity politics up the yin-yang.
    Imagine her Supreme Court.
    Don’t like the mess in Iraq, Syria and Libya? Get a glimpse of Hillary’s handiwork!
    Lies? Recall just one told multiple times over several months to different audiences.
    “I recall flying into Bosnia under sniper-fire; running to our military vehicles with our heads down.” When caught in that lie, she said, inexplicably, “I was sleep deprived.”
    Your choice: (1)She’s a bold-faced liar or (2) she lies when she’s “sleep deprived” or (3) when she’s “sleep deprived” she becomes delusional and hallucinates imagining Serb snipers are shooting at her.
    Finally, with Hillary you get Billary, a twofer back in the White House. NO THANKS!!!
    2. Seventeen government agencies said it was the Russians. How many agencies sold us the Gulf of Tonkin and Weapons of Mass Destruction. How many said Hillary committed no crime? It’s good to be skeptical of government. Trump’s a candidate, not yet the president.
    3. Trump may be a boisterous bumbling blunt businessmen, but his lifelong sobriety and success in the private sector may translate into success in the White House. There’s hope with Trump. With Hillary there’s nothing but more big lib government. I’ll reject the lefties and turn right.

        1. Matt,

          I admit that years of reading, and commenting on, this site…. have honed my critical thinking skills, deepened my mistrust of the “system,” and developed me into a bit of a conspiracy theorist.

          That being said,……and what you just said,……lead me to restate a comment I made some months ago….it was not my original opinion, but the source escapes me at the moment.

          It was…..that Donald Trump even running for president at all, was really a secret deal between him and Slick Willie to divide the Repubs (and the rest of the country) and diabolically guarantee the Hillary the Presidency.

          Starting to wonder again…….

          The good thing that will come out of this is that Trump’s candidacy opened the eyes and awakened a school of thought and change……..

          The talent pool has been permanently widened and will never be the same again.

          Trump will have succeeded in changing the system by that alone.

  11. “Having been briefed he was told…” Neither of us knows what he was told in his briefings. One can be dubious about press reports on the suspicious unanimity of something that outside computer security experts are unwilling to pinpoint. This rush to judgment is political. The Russian connection is possibly a red herring planted in the document drops.

    The debate did, however, feature one very serious security breach. Hillary disclosed the time lapse between a presidential decision and the launching of nuclear weapons. Do you trust the presidency in the hands of a person who does not know or care about the need for secrecy about certain matters? Remember she has never disclosed what communication route [email] that she used for highly classified materials. She only had her bathroom router to use and it was as secure as a sieve is useful for holding water. She claims to not know markers for security mean.

    Trump evinced skepticism about some politically motivated media handouts. Clinton betrayed a state secret. Americans concerned about the well being of the nation have only one rational choice: Donald Trump.

  12. Amazing how many good things the Boston Globe writes these days about their candidate Hillary.

    Yes, this is sarcasm.

  13. “How could you possibly even consider voting for the guy.”

    One word: HILLARY.

    Syndicated financial columnist Scott Burns is encouraging his readers to vote for BU’s Laurence Kotlikoff, an economics professor. I would do that, but I prefer to cast my vote for a major candidate.

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